Why do we agree--interviews with traditional

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"People" magazine

The doctor of traditional Chinese medicine's fundamental is, this is one thousand curative effect of traditional Chinese medicine to survive a continuation of the traditional Chinese medicine, is why in foreign gradually development and expansion of the reason.

Interview: this reporter ZhangHuiLing engage by special arrangement

People who were interviewed XuWenBing magnolia bark until the Lord: traditional Chinese medicine, Beijing to hall, the hall of the source of traditional Chinese medicine clinic psychosomatic medicine experts

More and more DuoRen choose Chinese medicine

Q: I see you here in every week four batch of students from different countries to listen to you in English class teaching Chinese medicine, and to seek for you to see a doctor in the majority of the foreign guests. But last year the domestic several academicians, professors and called for traditional Chinese medicine, dr clamp down on you how look upon this phenomenon?

A: it's not fresh, the same broken capitalism red guards, FengZiXiu broke the HeiHuo, destroying antique, burned calligraphy and painting. The beginning of the reform and opening-up up to date to the Czech republic, the Roman furniture, someone sold his annatto furniture to fashion. The may fourth movement want to wreck KongGuDian, cultural revolution in the late PiLinPiKong. The plunder of foreigners to Chinese cultural relics collection at the museum. Today, antique collection hot swept across the country, people have to spend heavily to go abroad to foreclosure of cultural relics. In the Renaissance, the country also Confucianism investment to establish Confucius institute all over the world.

I want to with China's economic strength, the enhancement of the people of self-respect, self-confidence to gradually returning to strengthen, the Chinese civilization will then Renaissance at present people treasure tangible and have something like, with long, Chinese traditional thought, spirit, values, and will gradually return, China will not always do the colonies, sells resources, cheap goods and labor.

Q: I really admire your optimism and self-confidence, but medical after all is not cultural relics, art, is serious human life science, and how the economic strength and self-respect and values on the subject matter?

A: not only is the simple medical make things, but covers the prevention, care, treatment and rehabilitation many domains. Because of the person different, syndrome differentiation and treatment of traditional Chinese medicine health care treatment method is more suitable for individual needs. Ordinary people to buy clothes can only buy ready-made clothing, the rich or the person who have the personal status will find the tailor tailored, the truth is the same. Believe that with the economic status and social status has improved, self consciousness, main body consciousness enhancement, prevent health awareness enhancement, there will be more and more people choose to traditional Chinese medicine.

Why more and atrophy of traditional Chinese medicine?

Q: now I also agree with traditional Chinese medicine in the health, health care has an advantage, but after all fall ill most people will go to see the western medicine, it is also with the development of economy, the revival of traditional culture change?

A: for the treatment of death, rebirth, not facing disease of traditional Chinese medicine still is choice depends on their own values, western medicine or followed the mainstream social values. And the formation of the values and cultural background and economic strength are directly related. Is also had cancer, Jordan's king hussein chose to go to the United States for surgery and chemotherapy, the results less than half a died. Cambodia sihanoukville choose to accept the Chinese to the main results of combining traditional Chinese and western medicine treatment, survived 10 DuoNian. The phoenix TV LiuHaiRe in Britain was judged to be a vegetable, western medicine her parents choose to accept the return of the main combining traditional Chinese and western medicine treatment, the results we all see.

Q: but most people in western medicine treatment is invalid, die straws when to go looking for traditional Chinese medicine, or acute illness find cc, chronic disease for traditional Chinese medicine. Nurse The curative effect and the value orientation, with relevant?

A: Chinese medicine to treat acute illness as, and the pain is small, the effect is good, spend less. But in the social value orientation to western medicine for the standard, western medicine didn't cure, everybody thinks that got damn disease, traditional Chinese medicine to cure is not dead. At the beginning of the last century of lu xun's father was deprived of fame after, drinking hurt liver, finally got cirrhosis, a postponement of traditional Chinese medicine modulation. Finally ascites vomiting blood and die. Lu xun's not only not appreciate Chinese medicine eased his father's pain, extended the life, instead of traditional Chinese medicine is a swindler. Scold At the beginning of this century a great artist, rich Chen had the same illness in Shanghai western medicine hospital, someone said what?

In this atmosphere, TCM treatment not scope, not legal support protection, can only more and atrophy.

For example acute appendicitis, western medicine have to surgery, patients have to sign before the operation, to identify if there was anesthesia accidents, blood infection and so on, the doctor without any responsibility. Traditional Chinese medicine need not surgery, taking them.42 I can solve a problem, I use rhubarb paeonia suffruticosa soup treatment is in 3 patients, all are a medicine to cure. But there is no security, one thousand, appeared a failure, then my career is over, even if patients have absolute trust, but there are a few doctor will the risk? Had to follow the crowd, let patients to suffer the knife.

The future social values changed, the corresponding laws and regulations, traditional Chinese medicine and will have a chance to display talent, traditional Chinese medicine also can faster development, the patient also benefit from it.

How to see the side effects of traditional Chinese medicine?

Q: before the impression of people traditional Chinese medicine is non-toxic, but recently the ongoing use of the toxic and side effects of traditional Chinese medicine produced, how do you explain this problem?

A: is the medicine, I have three minutes poison, this is common sense. Drugs, if not toxic to correct the human body slants sex. Want to learn Chinese, is to ask people in the Chinese medicine theory, under the guidance of the correct use of traditional Chinese medicine, and for good. So the ancients says: "as parents, don't know medical not mercy is for the children, and I don't know; medical for unfilial behaviour." People used to understand, have the common sense the medicinal. And historically, a pharmacy in sitting on the judgment seat, ask the doctor to the medicine, the disease guide buy medicine.

Look at the situation, in order to international standard and standard medical market, sitting on the judgment seat medical cancelled. Most proprietary Chinese medicine are marked as OTC, nonprescription drugs who can be bought, do not understand Chinese medicine can also use casually. Western medicine the doctor also learn the dozens of hours of traditional Chinese medicine, Chinese traditional medicine to be able to open course. And out of the accident, not the user of the reflection, but excrement basin problems in traditional Chinese medicine on all button.

Q: that you still don't admit that traditional Chinese medicine have side effects?

A: drugs in use undeserved, bring harm to the patient, not medicine, is a doctor or users of the problem. The correct use of drugs in the case, still inevitably bring harm to people, and that is the side effects of drugs. The generation of side effects because too fierce, the medicinal TCM the drug into non-toxic, small poison, big poison. Side effects of the medicine general all belong to medicine, and dangerous to the category of the big poison.

The doctor of traditional Chinese medicine's philosophy to restore the human body from the ability for the purpose, diet is first selection, the edible of for The Times. Try to avoid using toxic side effects of the drug, obviously. Being forced to use, also requires that in the disease. And traditional Chinese medicine has a complex complete processing, theory of compatibility, to eliminate the factors offset side effects of the drug. Don't understand Chinese medicine and traditional Chinese medicine, is not use man-made disaster medicine.

Q: now that traditional Chinese medicine have side effects, why not like the western medicine in the prospectus that plainly written on, tell everyone?

A: the use of drugs to who have to use? What circumstance to use? How many? The problem of how long. This need a doctor to control. Most taste mild, only in the medicinal use of improper can have side effects. Sugar to eat many will tooth decay, would you ask the person that sell sugar sugar side effects? Chili to eat many will hurt the mouth, eyes, rectal mucous membrane, causing dry bleeding, would you ask the people selling vegetables indicate the side effects of pepper?

Q: the same drug, the effect should be constant. Why do you always stressed the use of problem?

A: use the same raw materials, the cook looked through the vegetables and fry out you I do out of the vegetables, taste is not the same. Use the same play chess pieces, why is lost and won? Also a plant, according to the Chinese medicine theory is used under the guidance that was a Chinese traditional medicine, is a kind of results. According to western medicine theory to analysis, that can use plant medicine that can lead to another, the results. Or the problem, or was it a user guide users of the theory has a problem.

Q: someone for traditional Chinese medicine diarrhea liver pill lead to uremia tonic and calls for traditional Chinese medicine, clamp down on what do you see?

A: play thousand goddess those beautiful girls, mostly because use streptomycin cause deafness, falling lifelong disability. The 1970 s because the use of minocycline, lead to a generation teeth black. I didn't see someone so to clamp down on the call for western medicine. Apart from uremia whether it is caused by diarrhea liver pill and the tonic, also do not discuss whether drug undeserved. But the emotional value orientation, cherry is not science fair attitude.

Traditional Chinese medicine is not science?

Q: how do you see the "Chinese medicine not science" this problem? Or how do you explain to foreign students and patients to scientific character of TCM?

A: traditional Chinese medicine is a false statement, whether science itself is not established. For example if the children look like parents is a true proposition, worth discussing. And parents long whether like a child is a false statement, BuZhiYiBo. Look at the traditional Chinese medicine and science of occurrence, development history, will not raise the question.

Q: that you is to disdain to or avoid discussing this problem?

A: accept and discuss the proposition, it means that identity "science is the sole criterion for testing truth. Hitler make XieTongLun, think purebred Germanic is one of the world's most excellent national, formulated the confirmation Germanic standard: blond, high nose deep orders. If you agree with him, then discuss the theory of Chinese is Germanic problem, then to bleach hair, to adapt to the somebody else's standards, lest be cleaning killing. We will do so?

Q: medical and not race, not learn ethics. The truth is only one, like mathematics no Chinese and foreign branch, why medical association of Chinese and western medicine has the points, can't discuss concerned with who?

A: the truth really only one, but know the truth in more than one way, no absolute truth before being found, there is relative truth. At this stage, you can only learn from each other, the reference, to leave more close to the truth. If does not understand this truth, please learn the ancient India the fable of blind men and like ".

Q: you mean, science, modern medicine, traditional Chinese medicine is one of the blind?

A: that's right. If the patient as a elephants, whether western medicine, Chinese medicine (including the Tibetan, Mongolian, seedlings medical), India, which AYao of traditional medicine, medical, homeopathy medicine, including the witch doctor all holographic from their own different points of view and method to understand the truth, in that clinical treatment has the advantages of themselves. Now the problem is that anyone thinks not blind, and found all the truth, and the jump out to blame others, according to their own standard to test the others, I can only say that the real doctors would not do so, because they understand that understanding and treatment of diseases in the western medicine, hard for most disease unknown etiology, pathogenesis ominous, treatments lack, medical errors and side effects occur frequently, and he drags itself under the condition of truth, self-styled spokesman, it is ridiculous.

Q: but must have a standard to test, measure the Chinese medicine? My impression of cure-all are traditional Chinese medicine said.

A: don't forget the most fundamental, practice is the sole criterion for testing truth. Many people in many cases is pay attention to the standard, forget to practice. As the fable han fei zi zheng people buy shoe "say so," better reliability, no confidence ". Unfortunately for the modern science of standard machinery, rigid, completely do not accord with the treatment of traditional Chinese medicine, the living of gas concepts and theories they don't, they can't verify through the meridians of the traditional Chinese medicine, Chinese medicine, is therefore refute their ignorance, not Chinese medicine can't reason to exist. Need to improve their philosophy literacy and means of science and technology, not us.

The doctor of traditional Chinese medicine's fundamental is, this is one thousand curative effect of traditional Chinese medicine to survive a continuation of the traditional Chinese medicine, is why in foreign gradually development and expansion of the reason. The patient can not understand the theory of traditional Chinese medicine, his request is that relieve pain, and harmless. Most U.S. states legislation of traditional Chinese medicine, acupuncture or admit that set up schools, be the license. More and more insurance company accept insurance, and not their acupuncture to understand Chinese medicine theory, but people's example and the call, and bring business interests. Such as headache, patients do 10 times before therapy does not solve the problem, and accept the acupuncture treatment several times, the insurance company would save money for treatment.

Q: that no one can test Chinese medicine? Traditional Chinese medicine is his standard?

Answer: of course, and there should be a. The problem is set the standards should be understand Chinese medicine, efforts to formulate more practical standard. In the zhou dynasty before 2000 DuoNian, physicians evaluation assessment system. The rites of zhou doctors say: "old piece in the end is supporting the medical system to its food." perfect "for on, missed a second and ten lost two times 10, 10, 10 up three times allowed four times."

At present the so-called Chinese medicine scientific discussion of whether, in fact is behind the interests of the power and the title. Some people negative practice is the sole criterion for testing truth. For the truth's spokesperson, self-styled to master the referee right, right, to seek its own interests.

Q: I see is the overwhelming majority of the people support traditional Chinese medicine, but the doctor of traditional Chinese medicine's negative advertising argue not many people, instead of the majority, most emotional components from moral emotions of others is traitorous traitors and scold, number Canon forget ancestors, and so on. Why not calmly do academic discussion?

A: start this that the university professor zhang mou, itself is not rational, extreme emotional. Just think, want to change the constitution of the article, through the Internet Posting solicitation, is rational behavior signature? Not for his legal responsibility even if he have all the luck.

Want to borrow the banner of great democracy, to launch the personal purposes. A response, etc, the person of aggressive, he was afraid to make democratic, have to sealing the post and assumed a public all drunk, his wake up alone rock. This want to make waves, but its princes, and YuanBuDe others himself called him.

Q: but professor zhang said Chinese medicine and use of animal feces for drug, not fact?

A: but the professor or study of philosophy, incredibly don't understand "of two evils choose the light" the truth. Dung urine is not clean, but the Japanese release, the eighth route army soldiers poison gas no gas mask, is not use urine to wet towels over the mouth, nose in??? The red army subsequent forces across the lawn, not from the vanguard forces in feces, pull out of barley to eat? Must have the people is when zhang is won't do that.

Ancient prisoners by the gun injury, will ask for great webbed take for activating blood circulation and eliminating stasis, eduction stasis, poison. Modern medicine used to treat cardio-cerebrovascular diseases, is not the urokinase extracted from the urine? Use urine to traditional Chinese medicine, western medicine is ignorance and backwardness, with high-quality goods urine be advanced science? What is this logic? The robber logic.

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